Is it possiple for you to share with us when and why you decided to start tithing.

Are you attending any particular church at the moment?

Have you studied the tithing law in the book of Leviticus,Numbers, Deutronomy and others?

Jesus scolded his disciples when He was on earth with them for their unbelieve. That is the only problem we have today. Don’t let anyone challenge your giving. I give 10% away no matter what and then I manage the 90% that is remaining well. I live within my means. And the Lord is blessing me with new ideas everyday.
_ In the parable of the talents, it is said, they were giving 5, 2, and 1 talents according to their abilities. What is your responsibility? To increase your ability. I learn to trade forex. That is increasing my ability. What have you done today to increase your ability? If you increase your ability, you will receive more to manage. You will never receive more, if you cannot manage the little that you are giving.

If you are in debt, ask the Lord to help you. I got into debt by making wrong buying and spending decisions. Acknowledge your mistake, pay your tithe to the Lord and not to the church. When you give and think you are giving to the church, you are making a mistake. Work in increasing your ability in what ever you chose to do and God will bless the work of your hands. Do not lean on your understanding but trust in God.

Don’t spend on any books. If you want to get out of debt and you are serious, I have got a free 4 step procedure to help you. Give your 10%, ask the Lord to help you manage the remaining 90% and you will see what the Lord mean, when He said in Malachi 3:10-11.

10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

11 And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts.

Now, in my opinion, forget about the preachers. But like the disciples of old, do you really believe the word of the Lord or are you living in unbelieve. Jesus as I said, scolded his disciples here on earth several times for their unbelieve.

Commit everything you do to the Lord. Listen for His directives and you will do just fine.

Don’t ever stop paying your tithes. It is financial suicide. Trust in the Lord.

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Of course I recognise some things in yours that are to be appreciated; maybe I failed to categorically say so. However, if you look carefully, I tried to look at the issue from both sides – which was why my statement about a ‘balance’. God is NOT a slot machine; and if that was essentially your point, then I also noted that same point by stating: “It is true that our giving should not be a ‘formula’ to satisfy the quest for materialism.” I don’t see how that opposes you or anything true that you’ve stated.

Maybe the one thing you might’ve objected to is my asking that we respect other people’s views without necessarily making jest of their testimonies. When we joke like that, we tend to lose sight of the fact that many times those people are attesting the truth we fail to see in Scripture.

Again, tithe, my apologies. We can see things amicably. It was good that you pointed out what you’re not happy about in my comments; and I’ve taken it on board.

Regards.

I don’t think that anyone is hinting that God is to be made out into a slot machine of sorts. The point is that He gave us believers the fact that the more one gives, the more he/she receives. There are many, many verses attesting to the fact. Try some? Just a few below:

(1). Luke 6:38
(2). Prov. 3:9-10
(3). 2 Cor. 9:6

However, there needs to be a balance. It is true that our giving should not be a ‘formula’ to satisfy the quest for materialism. And in all honesty, such a quest for materialism was not what Denis was trying to highlight.

Yet, it cannot be denied that there’s an equal truth in the statement: “the more he gives, the more he receives”. As Christians, we should not be so negative in our outlook as to miss the fact of what those verses cited are exemplifying. In this regard, I can trust that what Denis shared with us is to be respected and appreciated.

My brother prospers because of his generosity. The more he gives, the more he receives.

But there was a time when faced with the Biblical Truth of Tithing, he was not convinced at first, so he didn’t give 10% to the church but rather he gave more than 10% to many “deserving” organization.
But did not reap much. Till the day he scaled back his giving and gave 10% to the church. (I believe he still to some but fewer organization).

It was then that he was blessed.
Through sacrificial giving and obedience.

(a) Marriage in Christianity is according to the principle of that same Law – see Rom. 7:1-3 and 1 Cor. 7:39. In effect, both passages argue that:

– “the woman which hath an husband is ‘BOUND BY THE LAW’ to her husband so long as he liveth”

– “the wife is BOUND BY THE LAW as long as her husband liveth”

The question is simple: “bound by the Law” – what “Law”??

(b) In Christianity, ‘love‘ for God and for one’s neighbour are remarkably referenced MANY TIMES according to the same Law – please see:
Matt. 22:36-40
Luke 10:26-28
Rom. 13:8-10
Gal. 5:14
Jam. 2:8-9.

What then is my point? Simple: you cannot argue what you so confidently asserted earlier, that:
“if we put ourselves under
ONE ASPECT of the law
& PROPHETS, we make our
selves subject to the
WHOLE law,
and therefore
subject to its CURSE!”

Well, do we take the time to realize that “LOVE” and Christian “marriages” are TWO ASPECTS of the same Law? Does scripture not teach in the NT that “love is the FULFILLING OF THE LAW” (Rom. 13:10)??

Since these are “aspects” of the Law, where is the “curse” upon a Christian whose life gives evidence to them? WHY do Christians who argue as in your post never once question the fact that a Christian wife is “bound by the Law” according to the “ONE ASPECT” formula you had asserted? If they are “BOUND” by the Law (‘one aspect’), are they then “subject” to a “curse” as you had asserted? If not, what do we then make of your own argument?

Some anti-tithing theologians are known for using the “ONE ASPECT of the law” and “subject to the WHOLE law” cliché/formula. But then they will quickly try (unsuccessfully) to cover up the gaps with even weaker excuses when they say that they can “bring over” SOME parts of the Law into the new covenant! Lol, that is simply cheating, not to mention a serious sleight-of-hand! Please remember that their assertion is “ONE ASPECT” means “the WHOLE”; so if they can “bring over SOME“, are they not defeating the very arguments they hold?

Here’s what I’m persuaded to offer: Let God prove His power to those Christians who choose of their own accord to tithe today! He has done so many times to many Christians around the world – and He did not have to wait for anybody’s clever arguments on either side of the controversy before responding to the faith of tithing Christians who trusted in His faithfulness.

God did not make tithing at any time to be a “yoke upon the neck” of any believer, whether OT or NT. Our arguments have turned it into more than a yoke; otherwise, we need to ask ourselves whether the Son of God was trying to place a yoke on anyone when He affirmed tithing ON THE SAME LEVEL with judgement, mercy and faith! In Matt. 23:23, He effectively said: “These you should practice, without neglecting the others” – in simple English: “DO BOTH”.

The cliché of “ONE ASPECT of the Law” against tithes is weak and does not hold any substance. If it does, then we would all be under a “curse” for embracing the “weightier matters of the Law” such as:

– justice (or ‘judgement’)
– mercy
– faith
– love
– Christian marriages
– etc.

Those are all “aspects” of the same law; and when they are evident in our Christian lives, we are not subject to any “curse”. It is for this reason that it is quite unhealthy for Christians to be stretching their arguments against tithing so far as to assert that “your very survival as a follower of Christ is at stake”. No, tithing does not give any grounds for such an assumption. If Christians are led by the Spirit to tithe of their income, let them do so – and let God be God in their lives. He has responded to their faith, and He still does so today – nobody can deny that, nor should we do so here.

Many blessings.