Comments on: How Spirit Led Giving Could Transform the Church http://churchtithesandofferings.com/blog/how-spirit-led-giving-could-transform-the-church/ Wise council about Church stewardship, Christian finances, and the tithe debate Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:21:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jerry http://churchtithesandofferings.com/blog/how-spirit-led-giving-could-transform-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-4098 Jerry Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:31:27 +0000 http://churchtithesandofferings.com/blog/?p=1053#comment-4098 Good points about free will giving. One thing I think you should mention is that the tithe was never money. It was food and was only paid to the priesthood (which were all Levites.), because they did not have an inheritance like the other tribes of Israel. God was their inheritance. The church today is mis-using the tithe and are dangerously applying the law where it doesn't apply. Good points about free will giving. One thing I think you should mention is that the tithe was never money. It was food and was only paid to the priesthood (which were all Levites.), because they did not have an inheritance like the other tribes of Israel. God was their inheritance. The church today is mis-using the tithe and are dangerously applying the law where it doesn’t apply.

]]> By: Freewillgiver http://churchtithesandofferings.com/blog/how-spirit-led-giving-could-transform-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-4067 Freewillgiver Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:48:19 +0000 http://churchtithesandofferings.com/blog/?p=1053#comment-4067 Jared I love your annalogy of the fruitcake and loving ones Wife. It is amazing how when we put Jesus into any box of leagalism it affects our relationships with others. My many leagalisms are so precious to me and so hurtful to others. Only the light of Jesus can help rid me of them. A little bit of leagalism hurts alot of our perspectives and motivations in our witnessing life. I too experienced the same blindess to others finacial situations when I believed that the local church and its leadership was the main place to give. In reality everywhere all the time and everything is to be brought under Jesus. My flesh is mad now that free will life has made me so much more accoutable to Jesus himself and not the local church. It is less comfortable. The spirit seeks to destroys the flesh. For example with 100% love thinking I can make less exuses to my wife and boss. Partial giving thinking lead to partial loving relationshps. I had less responcibility to challenge my sinning brothers or myself when I had 10% love as satifactory thinking. Why should I care deeply or find out about others finacial needs when my 10% was satifactory and belessed? Jesus love belonged mostly inside a local church along with most of my spirituality. 10% of money to Jesus thinking also let me think that I could have certain percentages of my life for me and the rest for Jesus. I still struggle with this. I gave a satifactory effort at my work, house cleaning, patience for my children, listening to others perspectives so the rest is me time. This is very dangerous and not like Jesus. Jesus is incompatible with partial efforts. God is holy, real love will only do. Now 100% belongs to Jesus and I am letting Jesus put this into practice in me. I cannot do it at all he has to crush my Idols. Now I must pray to have wisdom to use money time and relationships thinking about motivations. I need to get to know Jesus better and listen for what he wants. I am not normally that kind of person and I hated any talk of digging to motivations. I still am uncomforatable with non surface issues conserning Jesus but Jesus is smashing my know it all boxes and making me step out in faith. Jared your blog has been apart of setting me free in heaven you will know truly how much. Legalism has such predictability that I still long for but I know it hurts my friends and family becase it makes me blind. I am tired of accidentally crushing people with my traditions so it is time to suffer change. Ah yes free will giving is one tool that opens up creativity and prayer over where to give to God. It also helps one to try to understand what God is saying to us about each finacial transaction. This more Jesus like action over money can also translate into more love in relationships, witnessing and work. People try free will giving and be the priest that Jesus has called you to be. You are the hands of Jesus to your aquaintences neighbors friends and family. Free will giving as apposed to less than free will giving called Christian tithing is the choice of this blog. Less free giving leads to less love becase the standard is a partial 10%. Jesus is person, percentages are not important to him beause one cannot make a percentage of love. Love is the rule and love is the only Jesus standard for giving. Jared I love your annalogy of the fruitcake and loving ones Wife. It is amazing how when we put Jesus into any box of leagalism it affects our relationships with others. My many leagalisms are so precious to me and so hurtful to others. Only the light of Jesus can help rid me of them.

A little bit of leagalism hurts alot of our perspectives and motivations in our witnessing life. I too experienced the same blindess to others finacial situations when I believed that the local church and its leadership was the main place to give. In reality everywhere all the time and everything is to be brought under Jesus. My flesh is mad now that free will life has made me so much more accoutable to Jesus himself and not the local church. It is less comfortable. The spirit seeks to destroys the flesh. For example with 100% love thinking I can make less exuses to my wife and boss.

Partial giving thinking lead to partial loving relationshps. I had less responcibility to challenge my sinning brothers or myself when I had 10% love as satifactory thinking. Why should I care deeply or find out about others finacial needs when my 10% was satifactory and belessed? Jesus love belonged mostly inside a local church along with most of my spirituality. 10% of money to Jesus thinking also let me think that I could have certain percentages of my life for me and the rest for Jesus. I still struggle with this.

I gave a satifactory effort at my work, house cleaning, patience for my children, listening to others perspectives so the rest is me time. This is very dangerous and not like Jesus. Jesus is incompatible with partial efforts. God is holy, real love will only do.

Now 100% belongs to Jesus and I am letting Jesus put this into practice in me. I cannot do it at all he has to crush my Idols. Now I must pray to have wisdom to use money time and relationships thinking about motivations.

I need to get to know Jesus better and listen for what he wants. I am not normally that kind of person and I hated any talk of digging to motivations. I still am uncomforatable with non surface issues conserning Jesus but Jesus is smashing my know it all boxes and making me step out in faith. Jared your blog has been apart of setting me free in heaven you will know truly how much.

Legalism has such predictability that I still long for but I know it hurts my friends and family becase it makes me blind. I am tired of accidentally crushing people with my traditions so it is time to suffer change.

Ah yes free will giving is one tool that opens up creativity and prayer over where to give to God. It also helps one to try to understand what God is saying to us about each finacial transaction. This more Jesus like action over money can also translate into more love in relationships, witnessing and work.

People try free will giving and be the priest that Jesus has called you to be. You are the hands of Jesus to your aquaintences neighbors friends and family.

Free will giving as apposed to less than free will giving called Christian tithing is the choice of this blog. Less free giving leads to less love becase the standard is a partial 10%. Jesus is person, percentages are not important to him beause one cannot make a percentage of love. Love is the rule and love is the only Jesus standard for giving.

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