Comments on: Barna Takes a Stand Against Tithing

By: Richard Cevallos

Richard Cevallos — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:42:29 +0000

Tithing in OT was a principle. In the NT the practical principal was revealed when God loved so much the world that he GAVE something (his son). That’s why the early church was against percentages as Jesus taught. The early church would sell their properties and give it for the gospel. Paul would preach GIVE with a good heart and happily, and what you afford. This is why when Ananias gave Peter a PERCENTAGE….He was seduced by Satan to lie to the Holy Spirit and he perished.

EZEQUIEL 16:23 ” ‘Woe! Woe to you, declares the Sovereign LORD. In addition to all your other wickedness, 24 you built a mound for yourself and made a lofty shrine in every public square. 25 At the head of every street you built your lofty shrines and degraded your beauty, offering your body with increasing promiscuity to anyone who passed by.

I personally give because Jesus gave me everything… but I don’t look at percentages (sometimes I have given more sometimes less), and I like to give not always to the church but to people that need..specially in my family…. Take care guys

By: Alpha

Alpha — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:16:16 +0000

J. Burton if you desire to stay under the Law then by all means it’s your choice. Giving is totally different from Tithing? We are under no LAW so please rise above it and God doesn’t need your 10% each week, give to those who cannot repay you said the Bible, so why would I give religiously or under a legalistic expectation to God the Almighty and expect to be paid back?? We already have been bless,We have been set free, and of course although we are Christians it does not mean we will live this life of Luxury, never get sick or go without?you’re deceived friend?Read the bible cause when I read it (with a clear mind) I read that many people went thru hard times eg trials and tribulations,be real how are non-believers going to turn to God when all we hear is about the “Bless Me Club”.Tell me J.Burton what happens to those who do not Tithe???Do they get locked out side or does it not rain on them??you tell me, I pray for you to have freedom in his precious name Christ amen.

By: Stephen Tillotson

Stephen Tillotson — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:16:26 +0000

…So, it’s true: We have been set free from tithing and sacrifices under The Law…

I cannot imagine facing God and trying to argue – having been set free from the law of sin and death, living with the glory of His presence in the temple of our bodies, our bodies the bride of Christ – that we ought to be giving LESS of our resources, including our money. After all, Jesus talked a lot about money – and He has asked us for ALL of what we are and possess.

We no longer need to support the priesthood as part of a governing theocracy, but it makes sense that we would support the work of full time preachers, teachers, evangelists and missionaries. Convert past practices of almsgiving into donations for the care of widows and orphans and our target giving would be well over 10%.

In my younger years, before I mastered the ability to make money, we lived frugally but as a young family we spent more than I could make and our giving was sporadic. This was during the recession of the late 1970’s and 1980’s. Our giving might have been a measley 2%.

As I learned the art of making money, and my children grew up and out of the house, I had the ability and made the commitment to give more – at least 10%.

As I am learning how to generate wealth, and as God chooses to bless me, I am committed to giving even a greater portion – as my witness and testimony to God’s provenence – rather than caving to consumerism. And yet I have plenty to spend on extras, just not as much as I would otherwise.

One day, if my earning power continues to grow, and as I grow in my understanding of living a contented life, I hope my giving exceeds 20% and more. And I know that many men and women are giving more.

Do I think everyone should do so? This is what I think: Everyone should give as they have been blessed, with a generous and thankful heart… they will receive a blessing for it. You could probably quote Jesus saying something similar.

By: J. Burton

J. Burton — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:46:19 +0000

I believe that tithing should still be a part of the Christian lifestyle. Give 10% or more to God. Church tithing is suppose to be furthering the kingdom of God. It is on their concience now but I would still want to know how much the church took up and where it is going. Tithing is suppose to be in obedience to God saying “thanks for blessing me” or “even in the tough times I will obey you.” It is one of the ways to show obedience to God, keep his house in repair (so people will come), and expand his kingdom.

By: Alpha

Alpha — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:05:00 +0000

The bible is correct about giving however don’t try to use this scripture to justify Tithing cause that would mean that you’re being crafty and deceptive??Maybe you’re not and i hope you are not cause in general giving is everything but does not associate itself with Tithing or anything legalistic, Remember God Loves a Cheerful Giver, not someone who has to give 10 % each week religiously..May God Bless you for re-enforcing Giving and doing away with Tithing.

By: JESUS

JESUS — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:47:56 +0000

Luke 6:38
Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

God says if u give, he will give to you.
NEW TESTAMENT

By: Jesus

Jesus — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:46:02 +0000

If u want God to give u life, give your life. If u want God to give u money, give him money.
When u done unto the least of these my brethren.
Let the WORD of God be true and every man be a lie. Believe the BIBLE.
Luke 6:38
Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

God says if u give,
he will give to you.

By: anonymous

anonymous — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:39:39 +0000

I’m very saddened by all of this vicious talk. It breaks my heart. To think that a conversation about giving could stir up so much hatred, and that those who hate think they are justified in their hatred. Check your hearts guys.

By: Alpha

Alpha — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:42:45 +0000

My Brother in Christ I certainly agree with you regarding giving however when it comes to false teaching and deception we need to alert each other? I am all for giving for the purpose of giving however Tithing is different and missused by these greedy selfish vermon who call themselves Christians..Give and support the Gatherings of the Bretheren and also Missions but to fill the pockets of these liars I am against, these people actually turn people away from giving eventually because people do wake up..It seems to me that people become too complacent and trusting and these wolves prey on them..Everyone needs to return to the Scriptures..Especially the New Testament Scriptures and see that when these self-confessed clever people preach a sermon which sounds very convincing and hyped up..However they are in error and should not continue. These days I don’t know about you but it’s actually more consistant to the point of almost making me want to vomit all over them, false religious liars who try to convince people that all the riches are here on Earth where in fact they are wrong..The bible clearly says that ” what you bought in this world you will also take out of this world”, I agree with you but not them, yes give by all means but without the the motive these preachers insist on. Support the real Followers and beware of the money handlers, Race be with you and please don’t take it the wrong way as nothing is impossible for God our Father, The Bible tells us everthing from the start to the finish and money is not the main drive here if you know what i mean..Soon we will be moving over to a new monetary system and these guys will fade out anyhow??The Lord led the Israelites out of Egypt and supported them for forty years etc.. I don’t get it when say at the end that the Evangelism is going to stop when we stop giving??Do you doubt the Power of the Cross and the Word of God???God comes first my brother and all money is something man made which is also corruptable and has caused more bad than good??It’s you that God want to give more so, cause you are commisioned to do so, Spread the Good news whereever you go and forget these Hypocrites who dress up on Sunday and stand up on stage with their Gold watches and Swade Shoes blah blah blah thinking they are a success when they are puffed to the eyeballs, God Bless!

By: Down Town

Down Town — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:07:27 +0000

Wow! Keep er up boys. Satin is loving this. Why God works through men and angles I will never know. All I know is that it is about an 12 inch connection between a man’s wallet and his heart. If man stops giving to a bad church nothing is lost. If a good church is cut off of funding by the saints, it also dies. This is not question of how much, it seems more to be a question of if you should give. The big deal seems to be if there is any accountability in giving. Of course there should be no accountability because we are free! I love this feedom talk! If you succeed in getting people stop giving, evangelism stops. I am not smart enough to know how God works. All I know is God works through men and Angels. God smiles on those who surrender to Him. Have fun with your own thought boys.

By: Alpha

Alpha — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:13:03 +0000

Bill Koon = Confusion, Bill do you actually stand by what you say about Tithing? If you do then you are in error, you need to go back to elementary teachings of the Bible.The bible is according to the Inspired word of The Lord and not Bill Koon, now start telling the truth Bill and stop relying on money to do all the saving, that was in your own life that you would have done those type of things and expected to buy out the whole world…You need to remember that Father Abraham paid Tithe but never ever received it??? Maybe you have woken 1 day and thought that you were a levitical Priest? Come on stop the assumptions and go back Bill, Why do you people always think that your more clever than others?As far as I am concerned this is a trap and a temptation for Greedy people or should I refer to them as Wolfs to come into the Church and confuse giving of not just offerings but also volunteering to assist or offer your time to help..Instead all you hear from these types is give 10% and all will be well, if that was the case then it won’t work Bill cause it didn’t in the old Testament where God called the receivers Thieves? Then People like you who still practice this Law use these situations with the help of your father to convince gullible people to practice Tithing.. By the way Bill are you a Seventh Day Adventists or what denomination are you?? May God Bless us and Correct us so that we can go forward and not backward or sideways, in Christ Jesus.

By: freewillgiver

freewillgiver — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:55:39 +0000

Bill Koon

Do you believe that all belevers are priest? If all Christians are priest then who has the athority to require a tithe to be paid from another priest? Martin Luther used a similar argument against the Catholic Church and their money tithes.

Christian leaders who sacrifice the most are the best Christian leaders. Christian leaders who expect the most payment from other Christians are the worst Christian leaders.

Jon the Baptist the greatest preacher of the old tesement collected no tithes. He suffered. Missionarys are the Christians who gennerally suffer the most and in U.S. evangellical churches and they usually do not colect money tithes but they ask for offerings. This is how Christian money should be raised.

Christian Schools are usually run on offerings and most Christan charities are run on offerings. Christian Money tithing is less voluntary it is usually practiced as some form of give or you are in sin idea.

Jesus collected a money tithe in the New testement from no one. Paul and Peter collected no money tithes from what is written in the N.T. They did give to the poor. Martin luther the great protestant reformer collected no tithes and said that tithing belongs only to the Old testement. so why should any pastors today collect tithes?

The telivagelist on T.V. come to mind. These guys on T.V. talk the most about other Christians responcibilities to give to the telivangelist ministries.

It has been my experience that those who demand money tithes the most and require money tithes the most are the highest paid and worst preachers.

All Christians are priest so all Christians must be the best ministers they can be and give only to the best ministries where the Spirit of Jesus leads them. Christian leaders should be first to sacrifice and last to expect payment.

Christ in US