Archive for February, 2007

Christian financial discernment

Saturday, February 24th, 2007

The church used to be the central place of local fellowship for the whole town. Most everyone spent their time around the church either to hear announced news, or to celebrate some sort of event. Much time, effort, and money was poured into the church and its upkeep. But, over time the church and culture surrounding it no longer mingled the way it had once done. The church became a separate entity, and the society became detached from its life support. Even though our steeples have gotten more noticeable and our pews have gotten longer, society does not attend these chapels for a social gathering. The conventional church building is no longer viewed as a place of gathering and fellowship for the community. Because the church building is seldom used nowadays, it is very hard to discern the amount of effort and support that church buildings should receive.

There are many good reasons to develop a facility that’s state of the art and also attractive. There are many times that this money goes wasted. I can’t judge how and what our money is used for. I do know that churches and their building funds will never be satisfied. Then again neither will all the poor be satisfied. When confronted with the decision to improve your furniture in your church or to feed the hungry, feeding the hungry is not the easiest decision. You won’t get a title deed, you don’t get to use it, neither are the homeless attractive to look at. I personally think, that feeding the hungry is a mission that’s a little closer to Jesus. During Jesus ministry, I don’t remember one time putting a roof over somebody’s head, but I do remember him feeding many people. I know that buildings do service some needs, but outside of Sunday service it is not a place of local fellowship, and neither is it a public place for the community.

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The Tithing Argument is Shallow

Saturday, February 24th, 2007

I just read a blog about someone mentioning that Larry Burkett’s book – Giving & Tithing is not very deep. I don’t believe in a tithe minimum or a mandate to tithe, but i do believe in sacrificial giving. I know that sounds somewhat vague, but really is making a sacrifice actually vague? Anyways, it really doesn’t come to much suprise to me that Burkett’s book about tithing is not that a very deep one. There are too many questions about tithing to completely dig into without getting in a tangled mess that won’t make sense.

All of the OT practices have a deep spiritual meaning that have been fulfilled by Christ, but when you dig deep into the topic of tithing you start asking the question, “why did the law of tithing change for the church if there was no command to”. This is what happened to me. A friend told me that tithing is not for New Covenant believers, i went on a personal bible study to “prove him wrong”, but in actuality, when i started digging deep into the topic i was more than convinced otherwise. I think what the argument comes down to is did Jesus fulfill tithing to abolish it or confirm it? Then ask yourself is tithing consistent with Spiritual laws of faith and mercy or physical laws of circumcision and blood shed sacrifice.

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Freely Receive, Freely Give

Tuesday, February 20th, 2007

Mission organizations receive donations from around the world. People have freely given them donations, and it’s no wonder why they freely give back. Don’t you think it’s odd that organizations like the Red Cross and Salvation Army are the ones left up to taking care of the needy? Why don’t we think there’s something wrong with that? The homeless are supported by other organizations poorer than the church, and we wish we had more money to better fulfill the great commission.

Whether or not pouring money into our church real estate is right or wrong, the church is definitely not a recognized candidate for charity. We take our tithe check and horde it into something that looks good instead of pouring it into people who are not attractive at all. I agree, I would feel more comfortable as well, if I gave my money towards something more beautiful that could be considered a financial investment. It’s hard to give that bum on the street some money, cause in the back of our head we’re thinking that it would be wasted on some booz.

Demanding a tithe brings no accountability to the leaders of our churches. The mission organizations receive free donations. They know that they might not see that money ever again, but they give it back freely, because they have received it freely. Imagine if our government was supported through charitable donations, how much more honest would it be? We give our lives back to Christ much more freely because we have received it freely. God was under no obligation to give, and neither should we.

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Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness

Monday, February 19th, 2007

Because you were faithful in very little, have authority over ten cities. – Luke 19:17

And what father is there among you? Who, if his son asks for some bread, will offer him a stone?- Luke 11:11

I read this blog entry that stated the statistic that church members gave 2.65% of their income. It also went on to say that if we actually gave 10%, then we would have added an additional $164 billion in revenue that could have completely wiped out world hunger from 2005.

I thought about it, and believe that is somewhat true, but really, how much are we impacting the needs of others around us with the little that we can give? In actuality, it’s not little. Most people, including myself, say, “if only god gave me more money so i can pay off my debt and give more to the church”. But also what most pastors say is, “if only people gave more to the church, then we can pay off our debt so we can give to the poor”. Both the pastor and the congregation are in the same boat. World hunger only exists because the pursuit of happiness and the American dream, are its vicious predators

God never commanded us to build structures for fellowship. As a matter of fact the temple was never used as a ministry of outreach, but only a place of worship. But God did command us to provide shelter for those who need it. That is where the philosophy of building church structures fail.

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California Pastor Stole a Whole Church

Wednesday, February 14th, 2007

This article stated, “California Pastor Stole the Whole Church“, pretty much explains the whole story. This man just stole a bunch of money, and sold the title deed of his church. In the mean time he was driving around in a BMW. This guy has guts. Is there anyone out there that can discern a little bit better about the wrong and right Spirits? Just continues to show that there needs to be more accountability, with our leaders. I really don’t think this guy is that much worse off than the people who coerce you into giving and call it the Lord’s will. Hey all they did was ask if they could steal your money.

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A Tithe Question for Leaders

Sunday, February 11th, 2007

I have just one question running through my head.

What would require more faith for church budgets and finances?
1. Teach people to give 10% of their income . . .or. . .
2. Teach people to give what the Spirit tells them to

I don’t want to answer this, but what thoughts run through your head after asking yourself these questions?

In God We Trust?

Friday, February 2nd, 2007

Mark 12:38-40
Beware of the scribes. . .who devour widows’ houses

In response to the article Tele-Evangelist Lifestyles

This article shakes me up. Bad. I’m almost speechless, and all i can feel is tears developing from the numbness of my thoughts. What have we done God? Help us.

“In God we Trust” is on the back of every US coin, but the representatives of God are trusting in the money more than the maker. Maybe our minds have grown numb to that phrase on the back of the coins and bills. It’s no wonder that atheists are winning the battle for removing God off government property; because God’s representatives have already done it without their help. Why fight the atheists? Our leaders have already smudged the ink so bad that it’s unreadable. We no longer trust in God. I grow weary about the debate of tithe and offerings when i read an article like this. But on the other hand, i’m more boldened to change the kingdom. I’m more encouraged now than ever to reprint the phrase “In God We Trust” back on every single dollar and back on the face of every single coin. We are fighting the enemy within ourselves now. God help us.

The Church Storehouse

Thursday, February 1st, 2007

Today our church building is typically interpreted as the Old Testament storehouse. If we look at the description of a storehouse, would a church really fit this description? Isn’t a storehouse called a storehouse, because it stores things? For instance in the Old Testament, the Israelites brought the first fruits and tithe to the storehouse, so that it can be stored until it was later distributed. How long does the church hold on to your tithe or offering check for? One day(typically), a week, or a month at the most. The banks biggest customer on Monday mornings is church secretaries depositing the tithe and offering checks from Sunday services. So, really your church doesn’t store your increase, the bank does. Wouldn’t the bank be a better, literal interpretation of what the storehouse was in the Old Testament?

Hmmm, are the wheels turning yet? I usually get the argument, about the church being where our money is distributed to the poor and missions. Well, doesn’t a bank distribute funds as well? No, I don’t think the bank is the storehouse, nor do I think that the church building is the storehouse. The literal interpretation of the storehouse is the kingdom of heaven. “Lay up for yourselves treasures in Heaven”. It is the place where we store our spiritual and eternal increase (our precious stones and crowns) and it is where we will distribute to Jesus Christ our king and High Priest.